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nimda
Dirty Old Kluber
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Male Location: March, Peterborough
Registration date: 2009-09-06

PostSubject: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:11 am

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Hi all,

I've go this warning light on the dash, indicating a problem with either the generator or aircooling. I've trouble-shot it down the fuse board to the dash. I'm quite gung-ho and have plumbed to remove the entire dash, I can clean the bug along the way, and learn how she ticks. I've hit a wall though, I can't remove the upper coupling half on the steering column (I might have muddled my jargon, I'm still learning).

It's a 1973 1303 RHD Beetle, here's the pics:-

As you can see, I've removed a few bits already, I just want that last chunk of metal casing off


I'm assuming I don't want to remove that split ring, as it would release the steering column bearings.


As you can see I've removed the 6mm Allen bolt


I'd thought it would just slide off.. it hasn't


Thanks in advance ;>


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Dirty Old Kluber
Dirty Old Kluber


Male Location: March, Peterborough
Registration date: 2009-09-06

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:21 am

For anyone interested in this thread, turned out it was a badly installed radio that appeared to be the culprit. Also a couple of bizarre DIY earthing techniques on the fuse block.

Solved --FTW!
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nimda
Dirty Old Kluber
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Male Location: March, Peterborough
Registration date: 2009-09-06

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:50 am

Rubbish! No such luck, dash fuse popped again! Back to the drawing board.
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Male Location: March, Peterborough
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PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:56 pm

This is so frustrating. Having removed the radio there's now a nice access hole behind the dash, so I'm doing some visual inspections, and noticed a disconnected earth cable, I attached that to a spade chassis mount point, and thought just maybe that would have sorted it. Replaced the blown dash fuse, and was about to take a spin down to the Chinese, only I noticed the right taillight has now disappeared; the brake light still works, I used the "other" car that evening. In the morning I wanted to drive to my girfriend's, I jumped into the Beetle, pulled out onto the 141 only to have the dash fuse blow.. again!?! WTF! I can't imagine how anyone ever managed to drive this this without it breaking! (that's another story though).

I'll keep on digging around, and I have to say http://www.vw-resource.com/ is a gift from the gods! Any advise at this point would be appreciated.
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No Life Kluber
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Age: 36
Location: Peterboghorror
Registration date: 2008-04-17

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:11 pm

Have you removed all that aftermarket blue earth wiring coming from the -ve pole of the battery?

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nimda
Dirty Old Kluber
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Male Location: March, Peterborough
Registration date: 2009-09-06

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:09 am

Miles wrote:
Have you removed all that aftermarket blue earth wiring coming from the -ve pole of the battery?


I want to say yes ... the cables were removed from the battery, but I've not yet gone round removing them completely yet. I'm planning to tomorrow evening, but you know how these things go. When I do, I'll post anything interesting 'custom-installs' I find, and results of any further testing.
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Dirty Old Kluber
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Male Location: March, Peterborough
Registration date: 2009-09-06

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:19 am

Removed all the after-market blue wiring, it was all to do with the broken rear demister. Also, removed the button panel on the dash, and inspected all the wires round the back there (found out why the fresh air control wasn't working at the same time ; ). It all looked fine, so I wired up another #12 fuse, exactly the same thing happened, not cool :/

Question: There's a chance the dash fuse is only blowing when I use the indicator levers, if that is the case, what's a likely cause of failure, anyone?
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PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:04 pm

I replaced the Flasher Relay, it wasn't that, the dash fuse is still blowing. There's another oddity though, when the emergency flasher is depressed the speedo mounted light stays on permanently, and none of the indicator lights flash, any ideas?
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Miles
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Age: 36
Location: Peterboghorror
Registration date: 2008-04-17

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:23 pm

The only thing I could suggest is that you thoroughly check ALL the wiring from fuses no. 8 & 12. (8 is for the emergency flashers, 12 is for your indicators, fuel gauge and instrument lights)

When I say check I mean thoroughly inspect all of the circuit, and make sure that there are no crossed wires, bad earths e.t.c

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Dirty Old Kluber
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Male Location: Peterborough
Humor: Yes I have some.......
Registration date: 2009-06-14

PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:12 am

Hi guys,
you coud have a dead short in your indicator wires.........does it blow when you indicate one way or the other.??? or both Question
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PostSubject: Re: Dash wiring 1973 1303   Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:33 pm

I think I've sussed it this time! Stevo, you were right, it would only blow when I was indicating right, that cut the problem in half. Knowing that the rear lamp fittings have been the only item I've replaced since purchase, I had a double check of them.

Looks like a combination of 2 problems; i) A slight rattle on the earth cable, which I crimped slightly ii) the tail/brake light bulb had a bad plastic casing, which would short the 2 cables together, blowing the dash fuse, so I replaced it.

I've now spent all my spare fuses, and most of the non-spare fuses ... so I can't even go out for a drive to test ;@ ho-hum.

I have to say though, even if that didn't fix the problem, I'm surprised those rear lamps where not of better quality ... never mind.
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